October 21, 2011 8:58:41 PM EDT
I would like to know what are we establishing exactly? Also to note, I assume this is only an a quick or long sort of gathering?
Also having the GM's of the RP guilds of the realm gather maybe a good idea to get an outline of eachother guild's activites and movements.
October 21, 2011 9:18:48 PM EDT
Isn't that the exact purpose of this network?
October 21, 2011 9:40:17 PM EDT
We've tried this before, the Alliance Vanguard. It was during the Shattering and lasted a few months after that. But then again, it was more of an In-character coalition.
I assume this is Out of Character? And if I may ask, who will lead these events?
October 21, 2011 9:52:14 PM EDT
It would strictly be OOC, and the moderator would rotate per meeting/month. During that month the GM would not be allowed to give a say in regards to his own guild, this would create an imbalance except that each GM serves at some point so the imbalance is evened out.
October 21, 2011 11:03:58 PM EDT
Also, not all of the guild masters were invited to the Vanguard. It seemed like quite the elitist little cult, as an outsider looking in.
October 21, 2011 11:32:00 PM EDT
I am not sure how we would go about that. Obviously there are those I would not be willing to include, one of which would be Ardrex of the NFG.
October 22, 2011 6:40:56 AM EDT
Please note Flixle is the IC leader of the Guard, and, Varlun, who is basically 2nd-in-command ICly, is the actual -Guild Master-.
October 22, 2011 10:37:55 AM EDT
well. one of y'all would be wanted to represent the interests of the SWG :p
October 22, 2011 1:37:21 PM EDT
The only GM I personally would like to not attend is Ardrex of the Northfold Gang. As for goals right now it is to allow for interguild interaction on a clear cut method. And really a big portion of this is to get people talking and planning. I cannot think of everything that would be needed (as I am one of the young GMs in ER alliance picture), So I created the forum topic for us to muse over :)
October 22, 2011 3:27:14 PM EDT
I can start going down the list to see if there is interest in such a gathering.
October 22, 2011 3:28:01 PM EDT
Would the primary goal of these meetings be to arrange RP plots? To give smaller/newer guilds an opportunity to be heard on an equal platform with the more well-established guilds? To discuss common RP goals?
For instance, people like Kino or Adabelle could explain what their guilds do and how other guilds could make use of their services.
Or, there's been talk of revitalizing the taverns. Everyone could talk about what sort of role their guild might be willing to take in that process.
Leaders of newer or lesser-known guilds could network with the other guilds and toss out ideas for inter-guild RP.
Would this take place in a raid group? Here on the Network in a private chatroom?
October 22, 2011 3:30:25 PM EDT
If a guild master can't make the meeting one month, would a guild officer be welcome in her place? Or is this for guild leaders only? Could a regular guild representative be appointed to attend these meetings?
October 22, 2011 4:12:57 PM EDT
I would say that the officer would be welcome in the GMs place and that he would have the same rights as his GM in that situation. I would say it would be good to do in raid.
As for the purpose. I would say it is both for the larger guilds to offer their services, and the smaller to try and plug themselves in. I would like to see us implement a few standards inside of our RP (E.G. Try to get an agreement to plead with our members to whisper before attacking someone).
October 22, 2011 4:43:45 PM EDT
I totally agree and understand! I really appreciate that and that your not just tossing it away as some stupid idea from the young kid on the block. :) I really hope we can build up ER RP on the alliance side.
October 22, 2011 5:10:13 PM EDT
I don't mean to offend Kay, but you didn't address the question I posted at the top of the thread. I don't see the purpose of having an OOC in-game gathering when we can use the network to communicate on a regular basis. You also seem to be insinuating that's there's some sort of disfunction or lack of communication between the various guilds and leaders. If I want to talk about something with a guild leader, it's as simple as whispering them or making a post here on the forums. Your intentions are good and I commend you for that, but it's just not a practical idea.
October 22, 2011 6:04:23 PM EDT
1. As a young GM I didn't know half of the guilds hotfix stated above existed. I still don't really know what those guilds are about.
2. I still don't know their purpose inside of the ER community. A monthly gathering would allow me to better understand the purpose of certain RP guilds and how to interact with them.
3. A monthly gathering would allow us to discuss goals short and long term for our small groups in a manner that a mere forum cannot.
4. Having ERN does not mean that it has brought in the scope of the RPers on our server. My case on this point would be that in the Guild Master forum thread, there are 20 different guild recruitment pages setup for horde and alliance. Now if you look at the list Hotfix provided I am sure you will find more than 20 names on the alliance side alone. Simply put, the ERN has not reached everyone. there is a practical purpose to having a meeting and that is far greater exposer from all the guilds involved to interact and work together.
I do not mean to be rude. And I am sure my wording is far more aggressive than I mean it to be, but to be quite frank I see plenty of reason to create such a meeting.
October 22, 2011 7:56:53 PM EDT
By posting things on this network, you are only reaching out to those who use the network. This can be your place to communicate with the leaders that frequent here. If you come across guild leaders that aren't on the network, try whispering them.
This website is a great resource. Your questions can easily be answered here through messages or a forum post.
October 22, 2011 8:02:24 PM EDT
The purpose of this site is to help roleplayers find premeditated roleplay and to help them communicate with one another. Not every guild, not every guild master, and not every guild member of an RP guild is a member of this site. If they are, not every member choses to use this site to recruit or organize. It is entirely optional. This site hasn't reached everyone because not everyone knows about it or uses it.
If you seek unity solely for the sake of convenience, Kayonie, you are going to be let down by this idea. You are going to need to adapt your idea to the needs of many. You are going to need a more specific goal, and a concrete proposal in order to get the sort of support you are after. Even with those things, you need a certain degree of objectivity and impartiality in order to keep the thing from digressing into the most foul sort of drama.
Unless that happens, I would be surprised if this went very far. I offer this not as a curse, omnition, damnation, or anything else - simply a realistic observation as someone who has been privy to the ebbs and flows, the idiosyncrasies and base machinations of this community for years.
October 22, 2011 10:33:48 PM EDT
The list above has 35 guilds in it. Sure, not all 35 guild leaders are going to join in enthusiastically. But if even a handful of them come together to discuss RP goals, they could get stronger guilds and better RP out of it.
Yes, if guild leader X wants to talk to guild leader W, a simple private message on the Network might handle that conversation adequately. But bringing together multiple people at once can generate dynamic conversation and open up some great ideas.